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thanks for joining us. tonight, nine years after the attacks, why is osama bin laden still out there? why now do we seem more divided over and apprehensive about islam than nine years ago? how active a hunt for osama bin laden is it really? the answers might surprise you. one on one with donald trump. he says he has a way out for the planners of the islamic center planned near ground zero. his way out is a buyout. they say they're not selling. is he taking no for an answer? stay tuned and hear it as only trump can tell it. that huge gas fire in california. did warnings of a gas leak go
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unanswered? hear from a man who watched his neighborhood explode, his neighbors die and says none of this had to happen. keeping them honest, with two things that haven't changed in the nine years since the attacks in new york and washington and in the heroic skies over pennsylvania. nine years later, we still haven't caught or killed the top leaders of al qaeda and nine years later, the president still has to remind americans that we're at war against islamic extremism, not all of islam. president bush stood in the wreckage of the world trade center and said the people who knocked the buildings down would hear from america soon. he took care the very next week when it was known who committed the acts to keep the focus on them and their allies, not the religion they claim to speak for. >> the terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack islam itself.
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the enemy of america is not our many muslim friends or arab friends. our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them. >> over the years that followed, president bush made good on those words, visiting mosques, hosting ramadan dinners, praising moderate muslims while while drawing the distinction between the extremism and slam it seven. today with anti-islam sentiment going in lower manhattan to rural california, drawing protests, with an extremist florida preacher threatening to burn korans and a rising percentage of americans believing mr. obama himself is a muslim, today the president spoke out. >> one of the things that i most admired about president bush was after 9/11, him being crystal clear about the fact that we were not at war with islam. we were at war with terrorists and murderers who had perverted islam, had stolen its banner to carry out their outrageous acts.
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and i was so proud of the country rallying around that idea, that notion, that we are not going to be divided by religion, we're not going to be decided by ethnicity. we are all americans. we stand together against those who would try to do us harm. and that's what we've done over the last nine years. and we should take great pride in that. and i think it is absolutely important now for the overwhelming majority of the american people to hang on to that thing that is best in us, a belief in religious tolerance, clarity about who our enemies are. our enemies are al qaeda and their allies, who are trying to kill us, but have killed more muslims than just about anybody on earth. you know, we have to make sure
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that we don't start turning on each other, and i will do everything that i can as long as i am president of the united states to remind the american people that we are one nation, under god. and we may call that god different names, but we remain one nation. >> nine years later, that reminder still is necessary. nine years later, the real culprit is still at large. here is what president bush said about osama bin laden back then. >> they used to put out there in the old west a wanted poster. it said wanted, dead or alive. all i want and america wants is him brought to justice. that's what we want. >> that's president bush nine years ago. this is candidate obama on the campaign trail. >> i think that we have to act and we will take them out. we will kill bin laden. we will crush al qaeda. that has to be our biggest national security priority. >> in just a few moments, a gripping account of the hunt for
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bin laden, then and now. up close, inside, where troops cornered the al qaeda leaders, cnn cameras and correspondents were there for all of it, in a few minutes. right now, the thing that seems almost unchanged nine years later, the pain over lower manhattan. tonight you see the twin beams of light marking where the towers stood. two blocks north the fight over an islamic center goes on, president obama saying at a new conference that anywhere you can build a church, synagogue or hindu temple, you should be able to build a mosque. as for that pastor, terry jones, who somehow thought he had cut a deal in moving the islamic center and mosque for not burning korans tomorrow, it seems he is heading to new york tonight. what for, we have no idea. meantime, donald trump, who offered to by the site of the mosque if they would move it five block farther away, says the offer still stands. we spoke a short time ago. it's the ninth anniversary of 9/11 tomorrow. the fact that there hasn't been
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a memorial built at ground zero, the fact that ground zero still -- it's a construction zone. what do you make of that as a new yorker? >> it's a disgrace that it's taken so long. frankly, a it's you probably know, my idea wasn't to build the buildings they have now but to rebuild the world trade center one story taller and stronger. but almost identical replica of the world trade center. i think it would have been fantastic. everybody loved that idea. instead they're building a different look. i just don't know why they're doing it. this could have built it ten stories or 20 stories taller but at least as tall and stronger. everybody loved the idea. >> why has it taken so long? >> because there's a lot of incompetence involved, a lot of incompetence, gross incompetence. years ago i took over the waldman skating rank sitting in central park for seven years, and nobody could get it built. they were working but nobody could get it built. i built it in three months and for a fraction of the cost. and this is just the same thing, except it's a larger version. >> mr. trump, what exactly did you hope to achieve by putting in an offer on this property?
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>> anderson, if you had been in new york and maybe you are in new york and you see what's going on in terms of what is happening with people, the hatred, the whole situation is just ready to blow up. and it's only going to get worse. i read an article in one of the newspapers yesterday that they were putting a price tag of $18 or $19 million on this building that they want to convert to a mosque. i said what's this all about? i thought they wanted to build a mosque. now i found out this man that has it, the developer, a low-level real estate guy without very much money and not enough money to build the mosque, as we understand it. i called him and i offered him the money that he paid for the facility, which is $4.8 million, plus a 25% profit, plus costs and lots of other things. and this would solve a very, very nasty problem. and he could go take the money, build it some place else, but a little bit further away than this particular site. and he was telling me what a great deal he made.
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he was telling me that the people were stupid that sold it to him for that low amount and that it's worth $18 or $20 million or that he had offers for $18 or $20 million. i said how is that possible? you bought it less than a year ago. how do you have offers for $18 or $20 million when you bought it for $4.8 million? he said they were stupid. they made a mistake. i know a lot of real estate people and actually happen to know the people that own the building. they're not stupid people. so, i believe that he is using this building as a way to sell it for a lot of money and he's using religion as a way to get the price. and i don't like it. >> you think he basically is holding out, hoping maybe -- what, the city or somebody will pay him a huge amount of money, more than the property is worth, just to move away? >> anderson, you see how poorly the state of new york is run. we happen to have a great mayor. but if you look at the state of new york, he's probably hoping somebody from the state, like the governor, gives him a check for $20 million. boy, that's a nice little profit when you can quadruple your money in a very short period of
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time. the people that sold it got $4.8 million and he thinks it's worth 20. if he were saying, look, i want the mosque because i'm a big believer in freedom of religion, anderson, but i want the mosque. it has nothing to do with money. he's not talking about values, the great deal he made. he talked about that to me. that would be one thing. but he was telling me about how it's such a great deal and how he did this and that. and then i read stories about him. he's a low-level real estate guy who, in my opinion, is using religion and the whole thing of a mosque in order to go out and make a big, fat profit. and i will be willing to bet that at some point this will be sold. possibly not to me. probably not to me. but sold. >> you don't think the mosque will actually be built at this site? >> i don't think so, no. and i see the -- i have major buildings in downtown manhattan. i was there yesterday and i see the level of animosity and all
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of the problems going on down there. it's unbelievable. i've never seen anything like it. i actually told him, if you would agree to do this, you would create such goodwill. right now it's nothing but ill will. you would create such good will, you would be a hero. you would be great. it would be great for everybody. i don't think he's going to. i don't think that's the kind of guy he is. >> the new york post quotes a lawyer for hashim el zanadi, the man you made the offer to. he says he found your letter, that there was a letter that was out in the press, that he found your letter that was addressed to him, quote, somewhat laughable and that it looks like it was written by a publicist and he goes on to say -- the lawyer says that el zanadi saw it as an insult. >> i actually wrote the letter myself, and i sent the letter to him and spoke to him prior to getting the letter -- not him but one of the representatives. he is one of the investors, the man you just mentioned. i thought it was a great idea. had i not seen the articles in
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the newspaper, anderson, about how valuable, what a great deal he made -- and, actually, that man, el zanadi said give me $18 or $20 million and i'm gone, or something to that effect. i see this and i think wait a minute, the people who owned the building are smart. they sold it for $4.8. they're not people who would have sold it for $4.8 if it's worth 18. i figured i would give them a 25% profit, which is pretty good less than a year, with a flat real estate market and other things and get this burden off the country, off the city and let everybody go back to normal and everybody be happy. i just don't see him, the man i spoke to, as that kind of a guy. i've watched him. i've seen him interviewed, i believe, and i see him as hard line guy and i don't see that happening. >> do you think this controversy will go on for a long time or do you think this thing will get resolved? >> i don't think you've seen the worst of it. it's going to get worse and worse.
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it will be very hard to get it built. i think construction workers are going to stop it. i think a lot of people are going to try to stop it. my idea, i thought, could be a way that in every way everybody benefits, except me. because i don't even like the location, if you want to know the truth. it's probably the worst location i would have. i'm not a fan. i put it in my letter. i said i'm making you this offer despite the fact that i don't like the building or the location but i'm doing it in order to create peace. frankly, i think it will get worse and maybe far worse before it gets better, anderson. >> he has rejected but is your offer still on the table? >> absolutely. and i told him 24-hour closing, immediate, immediate closing. >> you have the cash? >> i definitely do. >> donald trump, appreciate your time. thanks. >> thank you, anderson. >> he definitely has the cash. you can see a lot more of donald trump when he sits down with larry king. listen to "larry king live" monday at 9:00 eastern time. let us know what you think. join the live chat under way at the hunt for osama bin laden. long before the 9/11 attacks,
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president bush vowed to get him. president obama campaigned on it. while he has dramatically ramped up drone attacks, targeting the taliban and al qaeda, they've yet to claim al qaeda's leader or the lieutenant. the president spoke about it today. >> bin laden has gone deep underground, even zawahiri, who is more often out there, has been much more cautious. but we have the best minds, the best intelligence officers, the best special forces who are thinking about this day and night. and they will continue to think about it day and night as long as i'm president. >> bin laden, in fact, has plagued three presidents now, clinton, bush and obama. we prepared a special in-depth report, players in the manhunt and the reporting of it, chapter by chapter, battle by battle in their own words. take a look.
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>> at the time it wasn't very clear how serious he was about this war. when he blew up two u.s. embassies in africa and then blew up the u.s.s. cole, it was pretty obvious that he was serious about it and not only serious about it, but had the capabilities. >> bin laden's first large attacks on us were the east africa attacks, multiple bombings at the same time. that's when clinton realized bin laden had sort of entered the big leagues. >> we must find those responsible for these evil acts south florida within a few weeks, president bill clinton launched a cruz missile attack at al qaeda training camps. bin laden apparently got away. >> the whole tower just came down. >> the bush administration
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generally had no idea about the scale of the al qaeda threat until they were evacuating their offices on the morning of september 11th, 2001. >> osama bin laden is a prime suspect. and the people who house him, encourage him, provide food, comfort or money are on notice. >> on september 11th, i was in kabul. just heard an intake perhaps a couple of miles away. it was very clear to me this was a terrorist attack of some kind and bin laden was behind it and pretty quickly attention was going to focus on where we were in kabul and afghanistan. >> on my orders, the u.s. military has begun strikes against al qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. >> we were the first journalists to get into kandahar after kandahar fell. within a day, local afghans were bringing some of the things they were finding in that training camp. there was a group of passports.
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you could see details of arabs coming to afghanistan just before september 11th. it was very clear that bin laden was sort of strengthening his forces on the ground, that he expected there would be a need to fight. >> a person directed with the responsibility of hunting down bin laden and members of al qaeda that fled kabul after we seized the city. >> he made his way. he knew the place like the back of his hand. this was an ideal place to stand against the united states and its allies, because it's mountainous and very dug in caves. also there's multiple ways to flee into pakistan. >> multiple times we knew his exact location during the fight. we did drop a blue 82, a very large, nonnuclear device at the area he just moved. >> by my calculation, there were more journalists at tora bora than there were american soldiers. >> we were able to listen in on al qaeda fighters talking amongst themselves over a radio. i spoke with an unnamed member
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of al qaeda in arabic. i started off trying to open a discussion with niceties. they insisted that they would fight to the end, that their enemies would die a violent death. at the same time what was clear was they were under constant bombardment by the heaviest possible munitions and their morale was under stress. >> a number of people who have been in communication with al qaeda members say he was wounded at the battle of tora bora in his left side, pretty downbeat, he looks terrible. he has a lot of white in his beard. this guy has barely survived being killed in tora bora and that tape reflects it. >> he was praying with his men on the radio, apologizing for them having led them into this trap. and he was pretty shook.
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>> the cia officials on the ground, including gary bernsten, were asking for a battalion of rangers to come in and encircle and capture or kill bin laden. >> they decided not to do that. they were overly concerned, very concerned with casualties. every loss for an american family is devastating. at that point, we needed to close the deal. we needed to finish this off, and we didn't. >> i think bin laden shipped into pakistan december 14th, 2001. he wrote a will as he was exiting tora bora, probably quite heavily wounded. and in the will he essentially said to his kids, don't join al qaeda. the road has been too hard. don't follow me. i think he felt that this thing was over. but it turned out that it wasn't. >> sadly, later, we would ratchet up the number of forces in afghanistan and in iraq and take significant losses. >> the blessed attacks against the head of snake, the united states -- >> most accurate intelligence is what we had back in 2001 after he crossed into the pakistan,
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coverage was very, very poor. it remains poor. >> we have videotapes of bin laden since then. he looks rested by comparison. his beard is dyed black. he looks fine. >> they can be passed off from courier to courier to courier. one doesn't know where the other got it from. it could have come from anywhere. >> access from the radio, internet, books and seems quite comfortable. we're spending around $75 billion a year on our intelligence. our intelligence hasn't answered really basic questions like where is osama bin laden, where is his number two, aman al zawahiri? where is omar, the leader of the taliban? we don't know these answers a decade after 9/11, pretty astonishing. >> al qaeda is effectively in a better position now to continue a low-level fight than it was ten years ago. >> bin laden has sketched out the general principles about how al qaeda will operate and how organizations that ally to al qaeda will operate.
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and in 2008 he says we will respond to the danish cartoons, the prophet mohammed that a lot of muslims found offensive. three months after that, an al qaeda member in afghanistan blew up a bomb killing six people. he provides strategic direction and sometimes he enters into the arena of saying here is some tactical directive and then people act on it. >> my preference, obviously, would be to capture or kill him. >> translator: obama and his administration put new seeds of hatred and revenge against america. >> bin laden's ideology spreads to north africa, spreads to yemen, somalia, across the middle east. the way much of the muslim world who has viewed the events after 9/11 has turned some of them against the united states and against the west. >> obviously the global jihadi movement will not just collapse if bin laden is captured or killed, but it would be a very
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big deal if he was found. i think it would be the end of al qaeda as an organization. al qaeda was his idea. he has been a rather effective leader of al qaeda and the global jihad movement. not just the organization, but other people who are inspired by al qaeda's ideas. >> what are your future plans? >> incredibly chilling. up next, gary bernsten will join us. also joining us, robin wright and bobby ghosh. could the gas fire in california have been averted? you'll meet a man who says the answer is yes. why is sarah palin teed off at arnold schwarzenegger? was it something he said? you bet.
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before the break we showed you an in-depth, pretty remarkable look inside the hunt for osama bin laden. what happened, what didn't happen, what went down and what went wrong. now a closer look at the why and what's next. gary bernsten is with us. you saw him in our report before the break, former cia officer and author of the book "jaw breaker." he is also a republican candidate for u.s. senate here in new york. also robin wright, senior fellow at the u.s. institute of peace, veteran global correspondent and highly acclaimed author and "time" magazine editor bobby ghosh, "is america islamaphobic?" you were there in tora bora. you tried to get support. that support wasn't granted. he got away. why do you think the united states still has not been able to get this guy? >> of course, if you look on the pakistani side of the border there, there are 28 million
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poshtoons. they have an honor code. he could find sanctuary. so many years later, it's even conceivable now he could have moved himself to yemen, to be among his own people. nine years is a very, very long time. he could be in pakistan and could also be someplace else after all these years. >> robin, some people say nine years later, osama bin laden is not as important as he once was and doesn't matter whether or not he is caught. do you buy that? >> i think he is less important than he was before. he was a charismatic figure at one point. al qaeda will continue to operate without him. his version of al qaeda is quite a small organization and that's the thing that's so striking. in many ways it's an advantage. it's small, it's sleek. we have tens of thousands of troops were sophisticated armory and satellite intelligence, tanks and so forth in pursuit of him, the taliban and others in the region. and he is relying on tribal
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networks, clan affiliations. and that, in some ways for his purposes, is more effective. he can hide out and not be found. >> bobby, do you think it's possible he is in yemen? >> i've never heard of all the intelligence officials i've spoken with have always suggested he is most likely in pakistan. i suppose it's conceivable. if he moved outside of that area, my suspicion is that the intelligence community would have picked up some signals. >> in terms, bobby, of what he is actually doing, how much is he actually planning attacks or is he just trying to survive? do we know anything really about what his life is? >> it's hard to be certain. as -- in that previous segment, as peter bergen pointed out, he called for attacks against danish interests and a couple of months later there was an attack in pakistan against the danish embassy there. he has influence over attacks. the suspicion is that he doesn't
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actually plan and execute them. but then again, he never really did that in any meaningful way. he was substantially the head. he provided inspiration. he provided the philosophy, if we can call it that, and he provided money. he was never really the executive -- he didn't have an executive role. aman al zawahiri had that and then there were others below him who would do that. >> gary? >> anderson, in a lot of the debriefings of the people that have been captured, senior capturees complained he abandoned them, that he hasn't provided leadership the past three years, that he has been separated from them and they recognize he's concerned more with his own skin than leading the movement. >> secretary state clinton has actually told pakistani officials that she believes that some of them know where he is and, if they wanted to, could basically drop a dime on him. is that true? >> i think there's always been a problem in pakistan. there are those who would like
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to get rid of him because he and -- he has cost them an enormous amount. and the taliban of pakistan has become the pakistani government's biggest problem. but the fact is there are those within the pakistani military, particularly intelligence service, that have longstanding alliances with bin laden and find for regional, strategic reasons that that kind of alliance is worth keeping. he is an ace in the hole for them. >> gary, i saw you wanted to get in here? >> yes. i'm not sure that they know where bin laden is. pakistanis need to capture and give us omar. that's what they really need to do. >> you have no doubt that they know where he is? >> i'm certain they could do that. oh, they could do that. they need to do that. we should attach aid to that. i wouldn't give them any more assistance until they capture and turn omar over for us. >> i was in afghanistan a year ago or even when i was there two years ago and remember having intelligence officials say in
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off-camera briefings, we know this guy is in the area. there's intercepts. we know this to be true. yet the pakistanis continue to say that's absolutely not true. >> that's the biggest problem both in the search for bin laden and, of course, with omar is that the best american intelligence, the best american drone technology and the best american intention and efforts are not enough if our partner in this fight, pakistan, isn't going that distance with us. and there's been plenty of anecdotal evidence and plenty of officials will say this off the record, that the pakistanis are not helping in the search at all. for omar and much more for osama bin laden and aman zawahiri. >> it's fascinating. appreciate all your time tonight. bobby ghosh, robin wright and gary bernsten. the gas line explosion in california that left four dead, 50 injured and a neighborhood in ruins. could it have been avoided?
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following a number of other stories tonight, brianna keilar joins us. >> hi, there, anderson. a new tool on hand to help free the trapped miners in chile. an oil drilling platform is now at the rescue site. it will join two other drills being used to reach the 33 miners who have been trapped for more than a month now. they may not be freed until december. iran has canceled its planned release of sarah shourd, one of the three american hikers it has detained for more than a year. an official said shourd's release was not approved by iran's judiciary. and scientists say a massive chunk of ice broke off the peterman glacier in greenland last month. it's now broken in two, they say, and satellite images show that the floating island of ice was about four times the size of
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manhattan. the split with the peterman glacier was the largest break-off in more than a century, anderson. >> brianna, thank you very much. devastation in california. the latest on the deadly pipeline explosion that leveled a neighborhood. could the same thing happen in the community where you live? keeping them honest tonight. >> why sarah palin took a swipe at arnold schwarzenegger.
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tonight the people of san bruno, california, want to know what caused a natural gas line to rupture and explode, igniting giant fireballs that tore through one neighborhood. the fire was contained by this afternoon, but the hard facts of how it devastated one community are stunning. at least four people died. more than 50 were injured, including some with severe burns. more than three dozen homes were completely destroyed. seven more were damaged, more than 170 houses affected in some way. california's lieutenant governor toured the area today and remarked it looked like a bomb went off.
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the mayor said the residents are in shock. federal investigation is already under way tonight and the operator of the gas line, pacific gas and electric, has promised full accountability. we're keeping them honest. some residents of san bruno said they smelled gas in the area for several weeks. tim gutierrez joins us tonight. where were you when the blast took place? what did you see? >> actually, i was working in my garage. and what it sounded like to me was basically -- we're used to planes coming low on top of the hill. to me, it sounded like two motors idling low. it started shaking the roof of the house. next thing you know, my radio went out. there was pure silence for a second and then it was a boom, boom! it shook the whole house, basically opened up the side of my door to my garage. when i looked toward my backyard, i could see the incredible flames, which i really thought was a jetliner going down. >> you thought a plane had crashed?
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>> that is correct. that is correct. we really did think -- the whole neighborhood did. >> you said it smelled like gas in your neighborhood for several weeks before the blast. when did you first notice the smell? do you know where it was coming from? >> yes, i noticed it around three weeks ago just previous to the stop sign before sequoia, every day after work on my motorcycle at the sewer, you could smell that distinct smell of rotten egg smell. and i had smelled it for a good three weeks on an everyday basis. >> did you ever call the gas company pg & e to report the odor? or do you know anybody else that did? >> personally, no, i didn't. but other people did call. >> how do you know that? >> from what -- these neighbors i've never seen other blocks, buapparently last night from what they were saying. that's how i heard that. >> and you said when pg & e came out, they told you to shut the door, to go inside. did they try to identify where
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the smell was coming from? this was obviously before the blast. you saw pg & e coming out in the -- they came to investigate? >> that is correct. that was around a good maybe week and a half ago. i was working in my garage. three pg & e trucks rolled up pretty quick, directed me to shut my garage. i shut the windows, go inside, that they're investigating a gas leak, gas smell. so, i did what i was supposed to do, went in, locked it -- shut the doors, turned off my pilots and watched tv for quite a while. and after a little bit, maybe a good hour, hour and a half, maybe almost two hours, i opened up the door to see where they're at and nobody, nothing going on. no knock on the door that it was a-okay, it was clear, nothing like that.t. >> you never heard anything else about it until, obviously, the explosion? >> yes, which is a sad thing. >> yeah. tim, i appreciate you coming on and talking about it. i can't imagine the things you've seen in the last 24 hours. thanks for being with us.
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>> thank you. have a good day. >> i wish you the best to you, your neighbors and your community. it's highly unlikely any have us give consideration to the network of pipelines buried under our streets and towns across the country. i never really thought about it. the network, once you look into it, is enormous. there are 217,000 miles of interstate pipeline and thousands miles more inside each individual state. keeping them honest, how vulnerable is the network? tom foreman is looking at that for us tonight. tom? >> anderson, you're right. most of us have no idea whether these things are anywhere near us. this horrific accident in san bruno has sent ripples through communities all over because it underscores that this network of natural gas pipelines is unbelievably vast. there are more than 3 million lines out here in california alone, feeding into homes and many, many more across the whole nation, as you can see in this map here. despite reassurances from the
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industry that it is safe, analysts say, keeping them honest, it's like the rest of our infrastructure. many parts of it are aging. during the building boom of the past decade or so, some proponents of greater pipeline safety say there have been concerns raised about how rapidly it has expanded, with questions about possibly shoddy workmanship along the way, anderson. >> have we seen evidence of that, spikes in the amount of reported problems? >> no. we haven't seen that. last year, federal authorities say there were 265 significant incidents, 14 deaths related to pipeline problems, 63 injuries and $152 million in property damage. that's not wildly different from what we've seen over the past 20 years. this is one of those matters where the critics suggested it may be just a matter of time before we start seeing more serious problems like what we just saw out in california, anderson. >> if the number of incidents isn't moving up, why do they think they'll see more serious
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problems? >> that's a very fair question. many people in the industry say, look, there's no evidence of it. what they're saying is this is just like what we've seen in the mining and oil industries, anderson. fundamentally, there are just not enough inspectors out there. the federal pipeline and hazardous material safety administration is under-funded. so, most of the inspections are left up to the states, which, in turn, often rely on -- guess what. we've heard this refrain before. they rely on the companies themselves to keep track of potential problems. the very thing that gentleman was describing there. they go out and look and say is anything wrong here? the head of this agency, however, says she inherited years of neglect and problems and has promised to fix them. there will be, as this goes on, the investigation into all of what happened out there, a lot more questions about what precisely they're doing to fix them and how that will trickle down to the places where we all live, anderson. as we saw, those pipelines are running past us all. >> just one of those things you
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don't think about. appreciate it, tom. twitter smackdown, sarah palin versus governor arnold schwarzenegger. see what sparked the war of words. stunt on the amazing race, all seems according to plan but not for long. the video that's gone viral. what it's like to get whacked in the head with a watermelon, that's what you'll see. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's luxury with fire in its veins. bold. daring. capable of moving your soul. ♪
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a lot happening tonight. brianna keilar joins us again with the "360 news and business bulletin." >> hi, there, anderson. work to seal off bp's doomed well in the gulf of mexico will resume actually earlier than expected and they've come up with a way to speed up the so-called bottom kill procedure so it can withstand higher pressure.
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army paratrooper who risked his life will become the first living service member to receive the medal of honor in afghanistan or iraq. staff sergeant salvatore jinter, of hiawatha, iowa, is being honored for his bravery in fighting taliban fighters nearly three years ago. president obama acknowledged that bouncing back from the recession has been painfully slow. he called on senate republicans to stop holding up a bill that he says will help small businesses expand and hire new workers. >> check this out. sarah palin shooting back at california governor arnold schwarzenegger after he poked fun at her on twitter. you may have heard about this. schwarzenegger was flying over alaska and he posted a picture of himself looking out the plane window and wrote, quote, looking everywhere, but can't see russia from here. later, palin tweeted a response saying arnold should have landed.
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i could have explained my multi-billion dollar state surplus and energy conservative efforts. she then asked what has he been up to? california with economic woes and she fought back there. what do you say? i think you say touche to something like that. >> brianna, i don't know if you've seen this video. i've become sort of obsessed with it. it's gone viral. it's a clip from the upcoming season of "amazing race." i actually don't watch at all but i'm told it's pretty good. they're supposed to launch giant slingshots with watermelons and knock over a target. didn't quite work out that way. >> right in the kisser. show that knight who's boss. >> oh, god! >> that is so traumatic. >> yeah. she was okay, apparently, but --
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yeah. and i guess they had to continue playing the silly game they were playing, but i was wondering what it looked like to be hit in the head by a watermelon at high speed. now i know. >> i sort of knew it was coming. oh, my goodness. goodness gracious. >> yeah. it's hard -- i literally have seen this probably 60 times now. every time. >> that's horrible. >> horrible, terrible. yet i keep watching it. >> i have a watermelon at home and i was thinking that maybe i could get up to some tom foolery, but not if that's going to happen. >> do not try this at home. do not build a giant slingshot, put a watermelon in it. don't try this at home. boom goes the watermelon. ouch. she's fine, though. apparently she is absolutely fine. yes. do you know what? she and her sister, i think, are on qvc or home shopping, one of those home shopping shows. i think they are presenters on that. >> i do watch the show but i haven't watched this season. that's some pretty crazy stuff.

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